#include<bits/stdc++.h>
#include<string>
using namespace std;
string s,z;
char cx(char x) {
return tolower(x);
}
char cd(char x) {
return toupper(x);
}
//int sum(const std::string& str, const std::string& sub) {
// int shu=0,zui;
// for (size_t i=0; (i=str.find(sub,i)) != std::string::npos; shu++, i++);
// return shu;
//}
int main() {
int a,b,ans=0,v,m=0;
getline(cin,z);
getline(cin,s);
// cout<<cd(z[0])<<" "<<cx(z[0]);
for(int i=0; i<=s.length(); i++) {
if(s[i-1]==' '&&s[i]!=' ') {
if(s[i]==z[0]||s[i]==cx(z[0])||s[i]==cd(z[0])) {
// cout<<1<<endl;
v=0;
for(int j=i,k=0; j<i+z.length(),k<z.length(); j++,k++) {
if(s[j]!=z[k]&&s[j]!=cd(z[k])&&s[j]!=cx(z[k])) {
// cout<<2<<endl;
// cout<<i+1<<" "<<s[j]<<" "<<z[k];
v=1;
// cout<<endl;
break;
}
}
if(v==0) ans++;
if(v==0&&m==0) a=i,m=1;
}
}
// cout<<s[i];
else if(i==0&&s[i]!=' ')
{
if(s[i]==z[0]||s[i]==cx(z[0])||s[i]==cd(z[0])) {
// cout<<1<<endl;
v=0;
for(int j=i,k=0; j<i+z.length(),k<z.length(); j++,k++) {
if(s[j]!=z[k]&&s[j]!=cd(z[k])&&s[j]!=cx(z[k])) {
// cout<<2<<endl;
v=1;
break;
}
}
if(v==0) ans++;
if(v==0&&m==0) a=i,m=1;
}
}
}
if(ans==0) {
cout<<-1<<endl;
return 0;
}
cout<<ans<<" ";
cout<<a;
return 0;
}