//#include<bits/stdc++.h>
#include <iostream>
using namespace std;
int cnt = 0;

int main()
{

    string s0;
    string s1;

    getline(cin, s0);

    getline(cin, s1);

    for (int i = 0; i < s0.length(); i++)
    {
        if ('A' <= s0[i] && s0[i] <= 'Z')
            s0[i] += 32;
    }
    for (int i = 0; i < s1.length(); i++)
    {
        if ('A' <= s1[i] && s1[i] <= 'Z')
            s1[i] += 32;
    }

    int fag = s1.find(s0);
    if (fag == string::npos)
        cout << -1;
    // else cout<< fag;
    else
    {
        while (fag != string::npos)
        {
            cnt++;
            fag = s1.find(s0, fag + 1);
        }
        cout << cnt << " " << s1.find(s0);
    }

    return 0;
}