#include<bits/stdc++.h>
using namespace std;
char c[22];long long id[25000],i,j,la,ls,num,ans;
int main()
{
freopen("116508.in","r",stdin);
char a[22];string s;
gets(a);getline(cin,s);
la=strlen(a);s+=' ';ls=s.length();
for(i=0;i<la;i++)if(a[i]>='A'&&a[i]<='Z')a[i]+=32;
for(i=0;i<ls;i++)if(s[i]>='A'&&s[i]<='Z')s[i]+=32;
for(i=0;i<ls;i++)
{
if(s[i]>='a'&&s[i]<='z')
c[j++]=s[i];
else {
if(strcmp(a,c)==0){
ans++;
if(ans==1)
id[0]=i-la;
}
j=0;memset(c,0,sizeof(c));
}
}
if(ans){cout<<ans<<' '<<id[0]<<endl; }
else cout<<"-1";
return 0;
}